You are Simon son of John said Jesus, without elaboration. His voice is so much greater Than paul the Pharisee. How long was Paul in Arabia? If Christianity means people who follow Jesus as messiah and savior then there is Christianity, beginning with Jewish followers of Jesus and moving out to the Gentiles through the Pauline mission. In fact, Paul describes himself as a ruthless persecutor who sought to stop what he saw as an aberration within Judaism. Had Paul studied under the great rabbi Gamaliel, he would have learnt the scriptures in the Hebrew lan. I really will Stand up, stand up for Jesus, and wave his banner high- just not right now in 1973. There is no god but God Shahada part 1 in Islam. For another example, individual jurists can be notoriously incongruent and self-contradictory under just the right environmental pressures Id need to look at liberal justices becoming conservative post 9-11 to relax protections for civil liberties. That is not what Paul said, he stated once ingrafted in they were formerly once known as gentiles. Things will be different then. take Paul leaving his honor spot of next chief of the Sanhedrin (being Gamaliel's student). The Lord God Jesus the Jewish Messiah, Son of Yahweh the Most High God of Israel, said: All the Law and the Prophets hang on these TWO commandments. Not one. Since the garage is smaller, we can finish that quicker. No one except Judas ever lost his apostleship. Gamaliel and his beliefs seem to have a fairly large impact on Paul and his theology. What is the meaning of Tentmaker? This also convinces me that even though it seems he split from Gamaliel, early on, that did not change him into something completely opposite. The blog started as a supplement to teaching through Acts at my church, then later college classes. Calling the Twelve to him, he sent them out two by two and gave them authority over evil spirits. [Mark 6:6-7], .2) Gospel of Luke time lag between being appointed and being sent One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God. Thanks for the pointer. To know the truth is a blessing from Allah, if I had to guess you just have not been taught what Islam teaches, and we honor all Prophets (pbut) revere the 12 Apostles and have never acknowledged that Paul was one of Jesus (p) Apostles, but have always known he was responsible for the corruption of the Truth about God and the Messiah (p). In his letters to the Corinthians he says, To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. Pauls speech and thought directly lines up with the teachings of Hillel. Are you the Patricio Abramzon who attended the Evelyn Rubenstein Jewish Community Center in Houston? Jesus never said anything like that, and Jesus did not see it that way. It seems that people want to limit the intervention of God in the lives of people he intends to use. When morning came, he called his disciples to him and chose twelve of them, whom he also designated apostles: Simon.. [Luke 6:12-14], Again three chapters later, When Jesus had called the Twelve together, he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. [Luke 9:1-2], .3) Gospel of Matthew which is organized by theme, not necessarily in chronological order. On analogy to Supreme Court Justices dissenting in limited and specific cases (anomolies) as a dissenting minority against a majority with whom the dissent would normally agree? This was where the institution derived its name, gymnos being the Greek word for naked. For Jews, nakedness was religiously offensive (11). By Paul being Jewish and involved in the gymnasium, he was going against the norm. Gamaliel In the Christian tradition, Gamaliel is recognized as a Pharisee doctor of Jewish Law. Gamaliel . Who am I to challenge hundreds years of false man-made tradition, like Jesus, Martin Luther, Columbus, Copernicus and Galileo? This is a question our experts keep getting from time to time. (Matthew 27:45). No it is true and I do know what im talking about since ive been a Yeshiva student for years and learning under well versed Orthodox and Messianic Rabbis. . Jesus warned us about the Pharisees in Matthew chapters 15 & 16, and quoted the Prophet Isaiah regarding them: These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. A scribe would be among the most highly educated in Judaism, and since at the feet of Gamaliel implies a mentoring relationship, it seems to me that a near-equivalent would be a serious specialized Masters Program, if not a PhD. If it wasnt for his prior teaching and influence, then he would not of had the zeal and passion. He tells his readers that he is "a Hebrew of Hebrews.". (Soon, in the Logos Library!) (And Peter certainly doesnt point to the words of some other man, a Pharisee at that, -Paul- and say that this other mans word is the word of God.). (Mark was intimately connected with Peter since the beginning of the Church, and he acted as scribe for Peter and other Apostles who were illiterate at in their younger years. Then those who finished the garage can go help the others finish the house., One worker objected: But Boss Paul, those were not the owners instructions! This gets Paul in trouble and that section of Acts is basically a dissertation by Paul stating he never taught against the law but adheres to it. As a world renowned public speaker, Rabbi Singer addresses more than 100 audiences a year. If you dont ask about Pauls sins, I wont tell about them. Moseley is not wrong: the earliest Christ followers were Jewish and no one tried to convert to Christianity, but that is because there was no Christianity to convert to at that point. Im glad no one disagrees with me. Tarsus of Cilicia. This is very similar to The Beatles- All you need is love. And what kind of a stone is the most solid, permanent, and unchangeable? Did paul study under gamaliel? (John 10:33) This is still the issue with many Jews, God simply cannot become fully Incarnate. He wrote the book on NT theology, and developed a missionary strategy that evangelized the western Roman empireso maybe three or four degrees at least. Here however it plainly is not. If you Torah-observant Jews dont believe that the Yeshua (Jesus) of the 4 Gospels is really the Jewish Messiah, can you back that up with Torah and Nabiim ? The testimony of Jesus is the voice of Jesus, (The Red Letters,) recorded by the 11 faithful witnesses, the True Apostles that Jesus personally appointed and trained for over 3 years. Yes I agree its a commandment given by Jesus, its not optional, and it applies to us today. Only 3 of these men wrote Scripture in the Bible Matthew, John and Peter. This is not true, you have no idea what you are talking about. Law. Share of voice equals share of mind. In fact, it almost sounds as if he is name-dropping in order to impress people! This post is about how God continued to prepare Paul for his mission through his studies at the feet of Gamaliel.. Gamaliel the Elder was the grandson of the great Jewish Rabbi Hillel the Elder, and he kept to Hillel's interpretation of Jewish law. There is no conservative or liberal spectrum regarding Judaism or the 32 sects of Judaism during the time of Yeshua. [1 & 2 Corinthians.}. To be more like Jesus is what some strive except for me Ive already arrived Im the perfect model since the road to Damascus What were Pauls sins? 1:3 ; 1:11-12, etc.). The answer to that question is, they have been listening to the voice of Paul, rather than the voices of Jesus and the Original Apostles. When he was younger, he used to have the great theological insight about territorial spirits and wrestling with dark angels. Paul is a master of both and since you do not understand oral law, its lead you to believe that Paul is a Shammite of all things. THey were called Nazarites or Netzarim (plural) or believers of the MEssianic movement (of that time) and were a sect of Judaism. You are using anachronistic terms to describe a pre-70 Jewish teacher like Paul. I will leave that to the Ruah, my rabbi and the Yeshiva (that ive been attending for years) I attend. One special person, alone, with special words, and a special title, who could never be WRONG. For that matter, was he even n the observing crowd at the time of the 1st Pentecost speech by Peter? Christian Pharisees were not unknown, even if we cannot know for sure if the wishful thinking of the traditions is true about Gamaliel and Nicodemus. This mantra is a misinterpretation out of context of 2 Timothy 3:16. "Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. I think we take Pauls claim here WAY too seriously. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about A.D. 6 at the earliest. This is simply not the case and you need to read a bit more widely than you have. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. More Wright supposition! For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. [erase erase erase], Of course, you both are specifically mentioned in Acts 6:2. Paul being the prodigal student, as it were, and departing from his mentor to do whatever he wants, abandoning his teachings, and then returning later when he realizes how foolish he was. Acts presents the evangelizing apostle and church leader Barnabas as a model of integrity and character. Paul is a Hillel talmudim through and though. Ecclesiastical tradition maintains that Gamaliel had embraced the Christian faith and his tolerant attitude toward the Early Christians is explained by this. So what is the application of this parable? The overwhelming majority of the epistles is actually fighting against the teachings of Shammai in his time period. Its nice and tidy to say I just accept what the Bible says, but whose interpretation? How about you? 5:7) Paul realizes he has missed The Fast in Acts 27:9 while on the prison ship. Jesus never calls us out For what we used to be. Since November 2021, Reading Acts is edited by Sarah Westphal. Just open the Gospels, especially Mathew, which has you in mind, and listen to the voice of Yeshua. If Paul began study at the latest age of 16, we can guess a birth year of about 6 at the earliest. You can hover over the pic and it will say that (or at least it did for me in Firefox). Scripture does not state whether Saul was or was not in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus crucifixion. Gamaliel became a leading authority in the Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish court in Jerusalem. Never mind what Paul said. I dont know of a single church that simply teaches the Bible simply and preaches the whole counsel of God, including Pauls sins and mistakes. I am surprised that no one has brought the tradition that Gamaliel was sympathetic to Christianity, if not himself baptized. Dont be put off by the ravings of Paul the Pharisee that so many Bible-believing Christians push so hard. .2) Paul lying to the Ephesian elders saying he was compelled by the Spirit going to Jerusalem, when in truth he was clearly disobeying God. Not the Jesus of the Koran, written by Muhammad the self-appointed prophet, and not the Jesus of Paul the Pharisee, the self-appointed apostle. And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred on one on me, so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [Luke 22:28-30]. You said that your QUOTE Quran is incorruptible. Thats like many Christians saying the Bible is inerrant. Muhammad is to Muslims as Paul is to most Christians as Mary is to most Catholics an idol that they worship, practically speaking. teresa marina tabucchi; antonia reininghaus daughter; mountain view ar tornado 1996; safari photography settings; catfish bite force; professional executor services The people who Paul persecuted were diaspora Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah and claimed that he was raised from the dead. If the Hillel tradition did not offer plasticity enough to justify Pauls missions against Christians, is it possible that Paul felt that he stayed basically faithful to Gamaliel/Hillels school and to mercy because the predominant number (majority of cases) of Pauls concrete cases against Christians did not require threats of death (i.e., how many Christians caved in?). Im sorry to shatter your confirmation bias but YEshua nor Paul were Christians. There is no greater lie than to lie about God. When and where did they first meet. Also Gamaliel was apart of the Sanhedrin which were the people that ultimately were the people who decided Jesus fate and persecuted many of the Jews. I dont want to bite the hand that feeds me (and my family). Take a piece of scripture and make nutty doctrines/traditions out of them. Im horrified that youre taking Jewish writings and making crazy stories out of them.. What is undisputed is that Gamaliel was "held in . Paul describes his own life in Philippians 3:5-6, where he lists seven things ascribed to him or achieved by him: He states that he was "circumcised on the eighth day.". There were several rebellions in Jerusalem regarding the building of gymnasiums. In fact, it is in this capacity where he is first mentioned in Acts 5. Paul, however, I think was so strongly devoted to the strict teachings of the Torah, that he had to fundamentally had to disagree with his teacher. Id better buy a case of chalk and some more erasers. This has literally been the Orthodox position for almost 2000 years. Acts 26:4. Well then, I will stop responding to you since you are not interested in learning anything which does not conform to your already-made-up mind. 2 : any of numerous moths whose gregarious larvae spin communal nests usually in trees. So they disagree with each other. He came so we can turn from darkness And into His glorious light. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than THESE. [Mark 12:28-31, Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Leviticus 19:18], #2 an expert in the law, tested him [Jesus] with this question: Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?, Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. I feel that (not competent to know) clusters of questions like these make me second-guess just how far N.T. The character and position of his father. But i am just speculating here. Lets see. Per Euseibus the first 13 bishops the Jerusalem church were Pharisee. But the testimonies of the era indicate he would have become a ward and trainee of Gamaliel in the age range of 10-14. The words of Jesus are superior to the words of everyone else in the Bible and to everyone else in the world. The people who Paul persecuted were diaspora Jews who accepted Jesus as Messiah and claimed that he was raised from the dead. Phillip you have been an inspiration to me here is a new poem. But he also gave the Holy Spirit something to work with! We proclaim with a big smile And Jesus is my co-pilot So Im always top of the pile, God our Father loves his children He is patient as we grow So we take another step Its The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, As we journey with The Moose Faithfully by our side We get a revelation We have to swallow our pride, He must become greater He really is The Star I must become less, but still with Him Ill travel far, You must follow me, says Jesus In His eyes I see a twinkle He is not My friend I am HIS Jesus is The Star like Bullwinkle. Later, when Im at the height of my career, and Im financially secure and I dont have to worry about finding a job or keeping my job, and I have some real influence- maybe 40 years from now, when Im, like, in my sixties, say in around 2013- thats when Ill really be able to stand up for Jesus. I want to bring my hippie friends to church- but how to I explain to them that its taboo to mention Pauls sins and doctrinal errors in church? The homeowners friend, the painting contractor, apologized, and explained: I hired a new foreman named Paul, but that was a huge mistake. Although Gamaliel was a wise teacher, he was still a Pharisee, so his teaching was not in line with God. Religious Jews, who were living under the Law, were asking Jesus (at that time a teacher of the Law) concerning The Law. You are extremely insulting to me when you ignore what was written and only hear what your own prejudice allows. We cant read without any number of lenses (Suppositions) coloring our reading. 1973 Inside the mind of a Jesus Person. Supposition isnt the problem. Acts of the Apostles, 5 speaks of Gamaliel as a man held in great esteem by all Jews and as the Jewish law teacher of Paul the Apostle in Acts 22:3. . Paul did a much better job of marketing himself, and he wrote about himself hundreds of times. You seem to want to impose your views of the modern church on ancient house churches. I dont think hes involved in church much, but I could talk with that guy. Love, Love, Love. (In other words, the second commandment, the love of man, without the love of God. While his academic eloquence and Oxbridge accent package his presuupositional as carrying high credibility, it too frequently in substance simply does not. 3) Paul exaggerating his ministry in Ephesus claiming it was 3 years night and day with tears when really it was 3 months in the synagogue and 2 years daily in a lecture hall. Based on whats happening in Israel, it looks like Jesus could be returning soon. ). Heres part two of this poem this spot seems the most appropriate place, I am he who searches hearts and minds says the Risen Jesus Christ Repent and do what you did at first Dont be lazy since He paid the price, Yes, Jesus sees our sins today Dont think that He is blind But the words of paul the Pharisee Will put you in a bind, Jesus washed away your sins Dont listen to paul the accuser paul abandoned the Church in Corinth And then paul became an abuser, When you put your trust in Jesus Yes, your stains were white as snow You didnt need to wear a Scarlet Letter Everywhere you go, I will repay each of you According to your deeds This is Jesus speaking to The Church Not a business selling felt needs, For those who claim to be apostles Jesus said they must be tested Priscilla, Aquila, and Apollos Persevered and were not bested, They exposed the false teachings Of paul the Pharisee So the Church in Ephesus rejected paul And had a chance to be free, Bibliography All quotes are the words of Jesus, in Revelation Chapter 2, Do we know what language was spoken in Gamaliels school or likely to have been spoken Hebrew or Aramaic? Yeshua himself even quotes these writings directly. Gamaliel is reflecting the Hillel tradition of non-violence and allowing God to deal with parties that against the Jews (Polhill, Paul and His Letters, 31). At the Last Supper, Jesus said to His Apostles: You are those who have stood by me in my trials. According to Photius, he was baptized by Saint Peter and Saint John, together with his son and Nicodemus. Friend, I want to hire you and your team to paint my house and my garage. Which one is it? I say that Paul became more like a Hillelite and was largely impacted by Gamaliels theology because there are a few instances noted in the Bible where Pauls beliefs line up very closely with Gamaliels. He studied under Gamaliel. In my reading, it would seem that many doubt the claim that one as zealous as Paul could not have sat at the feet of Gamaliel. For this he is slandered with pride by Christians who if believed in the Bible would reject mainstream theology for the lie it is. Some of the trials were limited to the high priest and his inner circle, it is likely the entire 70 member Sanhedrin met to dal with Jesus. This article is the result of when you remove the culture/context of the scriptures, the Hebraics of the Brist Chadasha (Renewed Testament) and injecting the christian outlook that Shaul (Paul) divorced his Jewish roots. I remember the general approach to the Bible at Dallas being that every word in the 66 Books is the Word of God.. and we should interpret it based on the intended meaning of the author in the historical grammatical context.. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). Peter doesnt point to himself, or his own words, or all Scripture or The Bible, Peter doesnt claim his own words are the word of God, and he doesnt claim that he doesnt need a second witness. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. If you think Im wrong, Jesus commands you (Matthew chapter 18) to show me my fault. The moment Paul stopped persecuting the disciples of Jesus Christ, he stopped fighting against God. In Gospel of John chapter 10, the Apostle John records many words of Jesus, including: My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me., I recommend reading the whole chapter (10), and listening to the voice of Jesus first (rather than the voice of a stranger like Paul first. Belivers in Yeshua adhered to Lev, 23 and worshipped on the true shabbat. ). Rather than the many trails of supposition. blasphemy! ), was the portable earthly dwelling place of Yahweh (the God of Israel) used by the Israelites from the. . Gamaliel II, also called Gamaliel Of Jabneh, (flourished 2nd century ad), nasi (president) of the Sanhedrin, at that time the supreme Jewish legislative body, in Jabneh, whose greatest achievement was the unification of the important Jewish laws and rituals in a time of external oppression by Rome and internecine . Granted Shammaite pharisees love their Torah to that extent as well, but it is not a distinctly Shammaite practice. No, I DONT want Paul to act like a Pope controlling all aspects of the church from a distance yet reading Pauls 2 letters to the church, it is clear to me this is exactly what he was doing. But you are still not a Muslim when our Quran is incorruptible and agrees with the teachings of Issa (p) more so than theology of Orthodox Church or any Christian denomination! Well Maybe that spirit isnt the Holy Spirit of Jesus, maybe you are bound in spirit by the evil spirit of Paul the Pharisee. :the character and position of his father; his own early training in a Grecian city; and his subsequent training under Gamaliel at Jerusalem. imitate me.. I am not sure God as incarnate is the issue, that is certainly not what is preached in Acts 2-3. So if I wanted to be like Paul I could stretch the truth and claim that Marco Barrientos was my worship teacher- but really that would be name-dropping in order to impress people!, Quote from The Atlantic Monthly Magazine, January 1999 Article titled What is the Koran? by Toby Lester. Hes actually stating his lineage and why he should have the floor to speak. Paul may be seeing this as another threat to the Law and acts as his predecessors did to preserve the culture and traditions of the Pharisaical movement and interpretations. I wrote a short note on Pauls relationship with Gamaliel two years ago and it has been one of the more popular posts on Reading Acts. For Rabbi Saul, the idea that the messiah could be killed is wrong but is it enough to account for a violent reaction like Acts 7 and the stoning of Stephen? Gymnasiums were built for these people who participated in game in which they engaged in sports naked. Once we allow things that we can not say with certainty, we give a foothold to the enemy to sow his seed too. . Yes, 99.9% of Christians absolute gets Pauls writings wrong. Once you have taken the covenant you are native born. This was like most of Pauls ministry, always doing what God told him and doing what was against the grain. Jesus Leadership Training, The Book of Enoch for Beginners: A Guide to Expand Your Understanding of the Biblical World. It addresses exactly what I was thinking, and its thorough. Not to mention I highly doubt you have a Phd in any area of academia or even known any grasp of Hebrew or Greek. In reality youd be considered a Judaizer ( an no its not what Christians think it is because that definition is clearly wrong) and thrown out of the synagogues. "From noon until three in the afternoon darkness came over all the land." They also believed gentiles could convert and be in covenant but there needed to be structure to convert. 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